Friday, December 08, 2006

Small but perfectly formed

Indian men have complained that standard condoms are "too big" for them, bless.


You know, just because the silly fish jumps right into the barrel, we don’t have to shoot it…

44 comments:

PI said...

Hats off to any men who take protection seriously, even if it makes them a laughing stock, and who don't just leave it to their partners.

Dr Maroon said...

At ease everyone, the Navy’s here.
Which one of yiz slagged off our Pat?
Nothing to say for yourselves?
Point him out to me doll.

Oh and Ivan, you ain’t seen me, alright? And it’s not ‘Indian’, it’s ‘Native American’, OK?
I’ll be watching.

Anonymous said...

It relates to Indian 'Indians'
nothing to do with Americans.
Why do Americans think EVERYTHING has something to do with them???

Eddie Cochrane said...

Thank God you've arrived, Dr Maroon. The man you're after calls himself 'Snoopythegoon'. I checked him out; he has a blog called 'Simply Jews' and for some reason he's taken against Pi. He objected when she called him a teller of falsehoods and he attributes her charges to her latent antisemitism, a ridiculous allegation if ever I've heard one.
Anyway, hope you get him for us all, Dr Maroon.

R. Sherman said...

Pat's a sweety for sure and her comments didn't warrant the response.

As for Ivan's post, I've always thought condom manufacturers should just steal a page from Starbucks' playbook and indentify things as "Tall" or "Grande" and leave it at that.

Cheers.

Anonymous said...

Well she did ask him if he'd been taking lessons from David Gest, and that is pretty insulting. LOL
Anyway she is a big girl and should have stayed to fight her own battles. The guy is clearly a loon - so we now know how stop the AIDs virus spreading, mass circumcision, yeh right.

Cantemir said...

I wish Bill Shockley would get involved in this thread.

Indians have small penises, which makes them Asians in Shockley's racial schematic. But they have dark skin, which should make them blacks. They totally skew the melanin-dick correlation that's the foundation of his case.

Then there's the matter of Jews. Do Jews have larger or smaller putzes than whites, blacks, Asians, Indians...? Scientific research must be done.

R. Sherman said...

Cantemir, your comment reminds me of a joke:

Why are Swedish women such poor judges of distance?

Because all their lives they've been told that this (Here's the visual part: Hold up one one hand with thumb and forefinger apart about the width of a shirt pocket)is eight inches.

Cheers.

Zeev said...

"we now know how stop the AIDs virus spreading, mass circumcision, yeh right."
Seems to work for the African tribes they surveyed, anonymous. You can't argue with scientific evidence.

Anonymous said...

ZEEV

Well, sorry for being cynical.
Just read all about it. First time I'd heard that - don't think it has been widely reported in the press here (UK).

Zeev said...

"don't think it has been widely reported in the press here (UK)."

Well of course it hasn't, anonymous. It's well known that the UK (particularly the BBC) media is biased against Jews.

Doesn't this leave us still with an unapologised for insult still outstanding?

Pi? Pi? Snoopy's still waiting for your retraction of your previous statement. Ready when you are.

PI said...

zeev:it seems I was wrong to doubt your statement re circumcision and aids. As anon says we haven't heard about it over here. I aplolgise whole heartedly if you really thought I was accusing you of lying and rejoice that there is hope for the aids problem. You and Snoopy are wrong to accuse me of anti-semitism. If you could be troubled to read Past Imoperfect which dates from the 1930's you may understand.
I don't divide people into Jews and non Jews or any creed different to my own. People are human beings - good and bad regardless of race or creed.

Zeev said...

Thank you Pi, it's good to see that some gentiles know how to say 'sorry' to a Jew when they've hurt his or her feelings. Your recantation leaves only 'andrewm' unaccounted for.
Andrewm? Andrewm? Wherefore art thou, andrewm?
Come and apologise like a man for calling me a 'fucking troll'.

PI said...

Zeev: I apologise on Andrewm's behalf. As you are a son maybe you can understand his instant response which I know he regrets. Nothing against the Jews, but 'who's atttacking my mother?'
Can we leave it now and let Ivan get on with his blog?

Zeev said...

"her comments didn't warrant the response."
R.Sherman, which part of my response was unwarranted exactly? Given the flurry of apologies that has since fallen my way, you're rather left out on a limb, aren't you?
Come on, R.Sherman, get yourself in line and say a big, heartfelt 'sorry', like the other goyim are doing this afternoon.

Anonymous said...

Ah peace reigns.
Just call me kiss-kiss-kissinger.

Anonymous said...

Ach.

Well I thought it did.

Zeev said...

"Then there's the matter of Jews"

...and while we're at it, we'll have some words of regret from 'cantimer', whose above quoted comment suggests that 'Jews' are somehow a seperate matter, to be treated differently from all other, normal matters.
Do you really see us as 'abnormal', Cantimer?

And I'd appreciate it if we can avoid the usual posturings and pseudo-intellectual claptrap we've come to expect from that corner. Just a straight 'sorry' will do nicely.

SnoopyTheGoon said...

"Scientific research must be done."

Nudge, nudge, wink wink, "Science...experiments...let's experiment on the Jews!"

Your last name wouldn't be Mengele, by any chance, Cantemir?

Anonymous said...

I'd get all the Native Americans to go after that Dr Maroon as well - telling them they've got small penises - HAH

Zeev said...

I hardly think questioning the size of Red Indians' penises compares in terms of bad taste with cantemir's call for live human experimentation on Jews, do you, anonymous? Let's not trivialize here.
Cantemir, we're still waiting....

Zeev said...

And R.Sherman, you're still not off the hook, either.

Desargues said...

I knew something was wrong with those Indians. Had they had normal penises, they'd never have resorted to those preposterous contortions known as the Kama Sutra. Who needs that, when your dick can do the job for you.

And, it seems to me, Pi, that Indians don't take protection very seriously. After all, there's over a billion of them these days.

Desargues said...

Ze'ev, just chill, bud. You're ruining everyone's Sunday here.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, fuck off, hook nose!

Solwatch said...

Dr Maroon, the answer to your question can be found in the comments section of the 'Chase Me Ladies' blog dated 21st February 2006.

Pi, if anyone who previously implied the Jews were up to no good calls you an anti-semite, there's no need to apologize. Just say: Heeeeere's Solly!

SnoopyTheGoon said...

Nice to see that some of you think racism a laughing matter, Solwatch.

Anonymous said...

oooo that's naughty.

That anon was not the original one.

An I think we were just comparing dick size not live human experimentation on jews so calm down Zeev.

Anon 1

Cantemir said...

My name's Cantemir, dammit. Don't you illiterate peasants know who Cantemir was? So much for the yiddishe kup, guys.

I have no idea if the Jewish putz is usual or unusual - I am entirely unacquainted with that entity - but perhaps, in the interests of science, Zeev will tell us how big his throbbing, raging prong really is.

R. Sherman said...

Ze'ev,

I'm not sure for what I should apologize. Coming to the defense of Pat, who is an absolute darling? Or trying to lighten the mood of these comment threads which really have nothing to do with Ivan's entries, which entries routinely brighten my day.

As for any accusations of racism on my part, I would suggest reading my blog. On the sidebar, I recommend the entries Gravois and MacKenzie and Flight 93.

Finally, I happen to be a member of the evangelical wing of goyim who support Israel and the Jewish people without reservation.

That's not an apology but it's the best you're going to get.

Cheers.

(Sorry Ivan for messing up your thread.)

Anonymous said...

Actually, I think Ivan went out for the day - don't blame him.

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Solwatch said...

Pi, Cantemir and R.Sherman,

There is nothing that requires a word of explanation or apology from anyone. The incubus that haunts this blog first made its appearance in this post in February 2006. If you read the comments following this post you will realise who he is, why he is and what a loon he is.

Before you waste any more time on him: READ THE POST AND THE COMMENTS.

Anonymous said...

Mmmmmm did.

To make fun of the holocaust is deeply offensive to many.

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Ivan the Terrible said...

Bloody Hell! Can't I leave you lot alone for one day? Right, tomorrow it's back to straight politics...

PI said...

Nice to have you back Ivan!

Anonymous said...

Ivan, I suggest you start deleting all comments by that fucking troll Ze'ev/Sol/le... er, whoever he is. Given that his "Jewish" behavior is exactly the kind of stuff white supremacists accuse Jews of, and which I don't hear much of from actual Jews, you kinda gotta figure he's either a troll pretending to be a Jew, or a psycho like Gilad Atzmon.

Whatever he is, he's an idiot, and the comments here have always been a lot more enjoyable when they're not entirely about him.

Zeev said...

Hold on, Solwatch, let's get this straight, shall we? It is I who have been wronged and I who have received the due apologies for those wrongs. Unless you are suggesting that either (a) Pi, Cantemir and R.Sherman are fools or (b) their assertions and insinuendos were somehow justified, I suggest you go chase your tail somewhere else. On Ivan's blog we don't dismiss Jewish peoples' concerns by character assasination (or at least, that hasn't been Ivan's way until now)
Thank you

Anonymous said...

Well, I was inspired by Ivan's post to write an entirely innocent witticism about condoms, but after all that I can't remember what it was...

James said...

I can see that this article has spread like wildfire and a lot of blogs including this one. But as a student of Journalism I just could not let this article go because it conflicts with the ideals of journalistic integrity. Now naturally a lot of you will start to question “my ethnicity” as it would provide your mind with an “explanation” as to why I am writing this or it will provide you with “my intentions” but in this case “my ethnicity” is irrelevant in this context and has no bearing as I provide facts and logic. I could be Caucasian, I could be Asian, or I could even be Black. Just to keep you guessing as I know some of you will I am not going to reveal that. Regardless, I have faith that you are intelligent enough to understand the analysis is just an analysis not a racially motivated “defence mechanism.” I stress greater importance on journalistic integrity revealing the WHOLE STORY.

Upon closer analysis, this article uses facts to create a twisted tale. It is actually better to analyze the article first and you will find that the article, illustrated the facts to put a negative spin on South Asian men. And I am sorry to shatter peoples “ racial, masculine superiority complex” but here it goes:

Another article that specified the study (http://www.slate.com/id/2154841/) stated that, “As per international standards, most condoms are 150 mm to 180 mm (5.9 to 7.08 inches) in length and 44 to 56 mm (1.70 to 2 inches) in width. But data collected in Mumbai till 2001 showed that 60% of the participants measured 126 to 156 mm (4.96 to 6.14 inches) in length and 30% between 100 and 125 mm (3.93 to 4.92 inches). ” Adding to this, many studies (in which urologist or other researchers studying the male penis, measured the subjects themselves with a measuring tape as opposed to the self-measurement method done by participants in the Kinsey institute surveys and other penis size surveys) such as the studies done by the American Journal of Urology, International Journal of Impotence Research, LifeStyles Condoms on penis size indicated that contrary to the popular myth of an average penis size being 7 to 8 inches the average human male penis size is 5 to 6 inches. In light of those facts, that means according to the very own studies and findings of the Indian Council of Medical Research, most Indian men in Mumbai are within the average penis size. (If you look up sizes on the internet there are still many who use the flawed Kinsey measurements and methods and contend that the averages range from 6-8 inches but academic sources state otherwise. Now it is also important to note that even the considered “average” is flawed in many respects but that is another issue entirely.

In regards to this study, how is this any different from what the Lifestyle Condom Survey of Americans concluded back in 2001? A study by Lifestyles Condom Co. in 2001 (http://www.free-condom-stuff.com/education/research.htm) indicated that about two-thirds of the 300 college-aged American males ranged from between 5.1 and 6.2 inches. We can come to the same conclusions about Americans: "Condoms made according to international sizes are too large for a majority of Americans (66% to be exact)." Or "Condoms designed to meet international size specifications are too big for many American men as their penises fall short of what manufacturers had anticipated." Or "Initial findings of a Lifestyle Condoms Co penis survey revealed that 66 percent of American men on spring break in Cancun had penises about 2.4 cm (one inch) shorter than those condoms catered for."

And the BBC article failed to note that in the study that, "the failure rate was lower in clinical trials, and many complaints were about tearing, not slippage, so the main problem is proper use, not size (slate.com)." Adding to this the average human male penis size is 5 to 6 inches and the article stated that 60% of the Indian men were in this range; it may be that the international sizes of condoms are flawed themselves. Skeptics of this article also question if they have done studies in other countries, including the ones that "set" the international standards, to see how many men actually "measure up" to those standards? And how is this international standard set?

AND, they selected over 1200 males which were actually 1500 males and all of these males were from Mumbai (and some from Delhi alone). The article says "the scientists even checked their sample was representative of India as a whole" but failed to mention that the men surveyed were from Mumbai (and some from Delhi) ALONE. From the analysis of people in one state they generalized an entire country! That may be the average for Mumbai alone not all of India. India has over 20 states and many union territories and contrary to popular belief India has a great deal of diversity in regards to culture, environment etcetera, etcetera. That is like surveying the size of shlongs in the New York State finding the average in New York and stating that, the average shlong size of adult males in New York is the average shlong size for all adult males in America even though there are over 40 different areas (States) in America. Another issue raised was that since an estimated 350-400 million people in India are below the poverty line, this article never discussed the issues of malnutrition in India along with the pollution in Mumbai in regards to human development as a factor and as a variable.

Some people called this article reckless journalism because it doe not tell the whole truth and uses the facts to create a negative spin. In regard to journalistic integrity this article could have instead focused on the AIDS epidemic in India and discuss how to get Indian men to use condoms rather than pushing sensitive buttons. I believe that the BBC author of that article should be fired for writing such an article with obvious fallacies and flaws; I wonder what University the author went to?

Anyways I know there will be those “skeptics” reading this who will be in an outrage as this article may have shattered their “racial, masculine superiority complex,” and even though I have stepped foot into these waters before as a Cauca…oops! I believe that human logic and reasoning is more supreme. With that said, I will not be responding to counter-arguments as I have many papers and exams to write at this point and will not be interested to re-visit peoples comments.

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